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FRL IV: ORATORY, PART 2

On Appius (F2)

F 2 Cic. De or. 2.246

[Caesar Strabo:] ut iste qui se volt dicacem—et mehercule est, Appius, sed nonnumquam in hoc vitium scurrile delabitur—: “cenabo” inquit “apud te” huic lusco, familiari meo, C. Sextio; “uni enim locum esse video.” est hoc scurrile et quod sine causa lacessivit et tamen id dixit, quod in omnes luscos conveniret. ea, quia meditata putantur esse, minus ridentur. illud egregium Sexti et ex tempore: “manus lava” inquit “et cena.”

71 HELVIUS MANCIA

Helvius Mancia (RE Helvius 15), from Formiae (modern Formia in Lazio) and a son of a freedman, was active in the first half of the first century BC.

On C. Antonius (F1A)

F 1A Cic. De or. 2.274

[Caesar Strabo:] genus hoc levius, et, ut dixi, mimicum; sed habet nonnumquam aliquid etiam apud nos loci, ut vel

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71 HELVIUS MANCIA

On Appius (F 2)

F 2 Cicero, On the Orator

[Caesar Strabo:] For instance, that Appius, who wants to be witty—and, by Hercules, actually is, but occasionally slips into this fault of buffoonery—said to my one-eyed friend here, C. Sextius: “I will have dinner at your house, for I see that there is room for one.” This is buffoonery; for he attacked unprovoked, and even so he only said what would apply to all one-eyed individuals. Such remarks, as they seem to be thought out in advance, win less laughter. The retort of Sextius was brilliant and spontaneous: “Wash your hands,” he said, “and then dine.”

71 HELVIUS MANCIA

Cicero mentions that Helvius Mancia was mocked in an exchange with C. Iulius Caesar Strabo (73 F 15).

On C. Antonius (F 1A)

Helvius Mancia made a witty comment about M. Antonius (65) while censor (97 BC), when Antonius was prosecuted by M. Duronius (68) for ambitus (TLRR 83).

F 1A Cicero, On the Orator

[Caesar Strabo:] This kind [of joke: comic, somewhat absurd] is rather trivial, and, as I said [earlier in the paragraph], fit for farces; but occasionally there is some room for it even among us [orators], with the result that even a

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DOI: 10.4159/DLCL.fragmentary_republican_latin-oratory.2019