Aristophanes, Dubiously Attributed Fragments

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Dubiously Attributed Fragments


(a) Lucian, Zeus the Tragedian 32

οὐκοῦν ἄκουσον, ὦ Ζεῦ, μετὰ παρρησίας· ἐγὼ γάρ, ὡς ὁ κωμικὸς ἔφη, ἄγροικος—λέγω(ν).

(b) Lucian, How History Should Be Written 41

τοιοῦτος οὖν μοι ὁ συγγραφεὺς ἔστω, ἄφοβος ἀδέκαστος ἐλεύθερος, παρρησίας καὶ ἀληθείας φίλος, ὡς ὁ κωμικός φησιν, τὰ σῦκα σῦκα, τὴν σκάφην δὲ σκάφην ὀνομάσων.

(c) Julian, Oration 7.208A

ἀλλ᾿ ἄμεινον ἄν τις διδαχθείη μὴ τὰ πράγματα ἀκούων αὐτὰ μηδὲ τὰ ἐπ᾿ αὐτοῖς ὀνόματα κατὰ τὸν κωμικὸν τὴν σκάφην σκάφην λέγοντα;

(d) Plutarch, Sayings of Kings and Emperors 178B

τῶν δὲ περὶ Λασθένην τὸν Ὀλύνθιον ἐγκαλούντων καὶ ἀγανακτούντων, ὅτι προδότας αὐτοὺς ἔνιοι τῶν περὶ τὸν Φίλιππον ἀποκαλοῦσι, σκαιοὺς ἔφη φύσει καὶ ἀγροίκους εἶναι Μακεδόνας, τὴν σκάφην σκάφην λέγοντας.

(e) Tzetzes, Chiliades, 8.556 L.

ὡς πρὸς αὐτοὺς ἀντέλεξεν ὁ βασιλεὺς ἀστείως, / ἐκ


Dubiously Attributed Fragments


(a) So listen, Zeus, if I may speak frankly, for as the comic poet183 said (quote).

(b) My kind of writer, then, would be intrepid, impartial, free, friend of frankness and truth, one who, as the comic poet says, will call the figs figs, and the tub a tub.184

(c) Would anyone be better taught by not acknowledging facts as they are and by their actual names, like the comic poet who calls the tub a tub?

(d) When the retinue of Lasthenes of Olynthus angrily complained that some in Philip’s retinue called them traitors, Philip replied that Macedonians are naturally gauche rustics who call the tub a tub.

(e) As the king wittily countered them, / aptly quoting

DOI: 10.4159/DLCL.aristophanes-dubiously_attributed_fragments.2008